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The Israelis are our allies which is why we (including the media) in America end up wanting to see them as the "Good Guys". I don't think this image is as engrained into our allies as it is in Americans from childhood. John Wayne, Robin Hood, Superman, Spiderman, Wonder Woman, etc. We have a belief that we have to be doing the "right thing". Political or selfishly possesive motives make us uncomfortable. We know they are present since we are human but we are in denial of them. I think we as a nation respect the Israelis for being so fierce while being so small. In the United States there are two kinds of people who are against most wars. Some are peaceful folks who don't understand war or conflict and think they can just talk everything over to solve it. The other are the type I am. I believe that if we are going to fight a war then we should do it like we want to win and have it to be over soon. With the military hardware we developed after Viet Nam we have a superiority in killing that is unparalleled by most nations. So, when we have missiles that we can send down a city street while aiming them from a control station on an aircraft carrier like someone playing a Nintendo game, why are we still sending young men and women into a meat grinder to die or get their limbs blown off? We have a computerized Gattling gun. We have had it since Viet Nam and they used to call it Puff the Magic Dragon. Puff can tear a whole forest down in about 45 minutes. It fires a minimum of at least one round in every square inch of a football field in one minute. At close range it makes a sound like a continuous blast, from a distance more like a collosal sized buzz saw. So, why are we still sending young people out in a field to shoot at each other from within walking distance of each other with HAND WEAPONS? A stupid symbolic ego pride thing that is shared by people in the military who call it "honor". We want the world to see us as an unstoppable righteous force so we don't fight wars as if we wanted to win right away. Peace talks, bombing treaties, taking away all the air support that we have available seems stupid. It is the nice guy thing to do. We idolize people who stand for words like Honor and Bravery because we consider those ideal qualities and part of being a "Brave American Patriot". The pentagon still uses soldiers like pawns in a chess match until they reach something that causes me to cringe whenever I hear the expression - an acceptable body count. To me, there is NO ACCEPTABLE BODY COUNT. A lot of you don't remember Menachem Begin, so if you want to understand, look up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Begin , because to me he will always symbolize the attitude of the majority of Israel when dealing with enemies. One day a market stall was bombed by a few members of the Palestinian Liberation Organization in an Israeli town. Menachem Begin rolled out the big guns and blew their own town half off the face of the earth. Afterwards he said it was a shame that all those innocent townspeople who were his countrymen had to die, but he had to be taken seriously. In other words, a "shoot the hostage" ideology. They are as seriously deadly as what we used to call the R.O.K. troops from Korea. R.O.K. troops interrogate by asking a question with a loaded gun to the detainee's head. If he doesn't answer soon enough, bang!, then they move on to the next one. They liked to do that in the middle of a crowded street. If the American troops were coming, the Viet Cong would set up an ambush, if the R.O.K. were coming they ran the hell away. The Israelis don't bother to interrogate, they just shoot everyone in sight. I believe we have a ring side seat at the beginning of the next massacre. Watch, America, this is how you deal with Terrorism. Instead of merely 'No more Mr. Nice Guy' we are going to see what happens when 'Mr. Serious Guy' handles things. You might want to cover up and shield against splatters. There is gonna be blood!
AzMildman, Tuesday, January 6th
For Mr Johnson,
Who's a Nazi?
The basic difference between Hamas and the Nazis is that Hamas have no Panzers or Luftwaffe. They are working on the Wehrmacht. Their declared intent is to murder all the Jews. Hamas is rooted in the Muslim Brotherhood, founded by Hassan al Banna, a Nazi collaborator.
As for your "Holocaust" accusations, we wish that Hitler had killed only 500 Jews, though you no doubt have other wishes. Of course, Jews were not firing any rockets into Germany at the time - another tiny difference.
I direct your attention to the following that appeared in Ireland's largest selling newspaper:
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/why-the-israeli-people-have-finally-had-enough-1592022.html
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So, it's genocide now, is it? Or is it actually another holocaust, something which one typically restrained Palestinian analyst described as "worse than Hitler's war against the Jews"?
Are we watching the ethnic cleansing of an entire people? Are we witnessing the deliberate eradication of a race?
Well, no actually, we're not.
Yet the conventional dinner party wisdom which we've had to put up with in the media, both here in Ireland and generally across Britain, is that somehow Israel is the aggressor in the rapidly worsening situation in Gaza.
Footage of air strikes with the ensuing photogenic explosions and dramatic plumes of smoke, quickly followed by clips of collapsed buildings and enraged mourners, makes far better copy than actually looking at the reasons why Israel has done what it's done.
Anyone who devotes only a cursory glance at the news, both print and television, would be forgiven for thinking that, out of spite, might and malice, Israel has decided to destroy the Palestinian people.
The problem with that conclusion -- and it's not something you're going to learn from the BBC and most other outlets -- is that, contrary to the currently popular belief, Israel is actually acting with a ridiculous degree of restraint.
Over the last couple of years, thousands of rockets have been landing on Israeli soil and, finally, they have had enough.
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We have really had enough of silly slogans and comparisons of every Israeli action to the Holocaust. Kindly Put brain in gear before putting mouth in motion.
Ami Isseroff, Monday, January 5th
yesterdays holocaust victims are todays holocaust makers
Don Johnson, Monday, January 5th
i heat you. you are worst peopel in the whole of world. be sure you are loser! damn to you. i love world without damn isreal. you kill good peopel but god whith us. you must know it. one day com that israel becom disapear. we pray for this. down with you for ever and ever and ever...
amin, Sunday, January 4th
God is with Israel!!!!
It is not USA or EU that will save Israel from any possible attack, God is there to saveguard its nation.
From poor Ethiopia
kejela Melka, Sunday, January 4th
Zionist born from the cursed womb.
Israel's Enemy, Friday, January 2nd
The WHY? of Terrorism in Islam…
I am an American living in Asia. I am not Moslem, but I am a writer and historian. I would like to share some information with you: information concerning Moslem violence and terrorism, and why the United States and its military allies must continue to be vigilant, and when appropriate, respond to individual acts of violent Islamic terrorism with relentless, overwhelming, and deadly force.
This information may help you understand what is going on not only in Israel and the entire Middle East as well as India, Pakistan, and China, along with other parts of Asia, Africa, Europe, and (soon) even the United States. In the not too distant future, Moslem extremists hope to involve you and your loved ones, as well as a vast number of other innocent victims in a man-made catastrophe: an organized and violent calamity of biblical proportions that is based on teachings that were deliberately added to the Koran, decades after the faith was founded.
Disregarding the social, economic, and political factors that serve as underpinnings for Islamic terrorism, I will address the more fundamental issue: the religious teachings that sanction violence against non-Moslems and AGAINST ALL WOMEN. Here are seven verses from the Koran. These scriptures have been translated into modern English.
…murder, crucify, or cut off the hands and feet of non-Moslems…Chapter 5 Verse 33 - The Koran
…create terror in the hearts of non-Moslems …cut off their heads…Chapter 8 Verse 12 - The Koran
…and fight non-Moslems until Allah’s religion is the only one…Chapter 8 Verse 39 - The Koran
…of all the loot you plunder from non-Moslems, 20% belongs to Allah and to Mohammed. Chapter 8 Verse 41- The Koran (Author’s note: Loot included kidnapped female sex-slaves.)
…Take as many as four wives from the women you are sexually attracted to … Chapter 4 Verse 3 - The Koran
…God has made men superior to women… Virtuous women are obedient. If a woman becomes disobedient, beat her. Chapter 4 Verse 34 - The Koran
…When it comes to marriage, Allah makes it legal for you to take as wives, women whom your right hand possesses. Chapter 33 Verse 50 - The Koran (Author’s note: This verse talks about the “loot” non-Moslems call… kidnapped female sex-slaves.)
Most people in the western world have never heard of these astonishing scriptures, but they are in the Koran … along with a relatively short list of others, just like them. This is important because not all Moslems are the same; there are two very different types. Militant Moslems view these verses as commandments from their god – a primitive desert god, from an ancient land of heat, sand and scorpions. Militant Moslems think these teachings apply to life in the Twenty-first Century and they try to use them, regardless of the suffering and mayhem they create, whereas moderate Moslems ignore such verses because they were uttered a long time ago, when the Arabian peninsula, from whence Islam came, was a wild and savage place.
Historians tell us these terrorist teachings are part of a cluster of ferocious beliefs that were deliberately added to one specific part of the formerly peaceful and tolerant Koran. These startling changes were made, decades after Islam was first founded in the Arabian city of Mecca. By the time of these changes the original (and real) prophet of Islam was dead. Thereafter the religious headquarters was uprooted and moved to the city of Medina. In its new environment, with new leadership at the helm, Islam mutated; it turned cruel and predatory.
In fact, historians also tell us Islam didn’t simply fall from the sky as a full-blown religion, but rather evolved from a persecuted sect of Jewish-Christians. The first Moslems in the city of Mecca were actually part of a larger group of Jesus’ followers called the Ebionites.
Ebionites were peace-loving disciples of Christ, who shared their wealth with fellow believers, and taught that a man should marry only one wife.
In fact, women were much more independent in the Ebionite Jewish-Christian days of Islam. They were more influential too. I say this because my research has determined that the first prophet of Islam may have been someone other than Mohammed: I believe the first prophet was a very special Arabian princess named Khadija the Pure. Khadija was Mohammed’s first and only wife for twenty-four years. Khadija was fifteen years older than Mohammed. She was considered to be fabulously wealthy, and she was Mohammed’s employer, before she became his wife.
Mohammed on the other hand, before he became Khadija’s employee, was an impoverished youth who had been raised as an orphan. Ultimately Mohammed worked his way up to a position as Khadija’s business manager. With time, Khadija grew fond of Mohammed. She even married him. However, Khadija was a liberated woman. In fact, Khadija was the one who initiated the marriage proposal to Mohammed! And after their wedding, she never allowed Mohammed to take other wives, or have other women into her house.
Throughout her lifetime, even though Khadija had already converted to Christianity, Mohammed’s first and only wife for twenty-four years remained an important Arabian princess in the ruling family that controlled worship in the Kabba Temple, with it’s pantheon of more than three hundred pagan gods and goddesses. Clearly, in the early days of Islam, Khadija was a person of great influence in Arabian society: and clearly Mohammed, her husband… was not. www.TheMoslemInstitute.com
After Khadija’s untimely death from a terrible illness, Islam was hijacked by a cartel of corrupt men, headed by Mohammed himself. The faith was abruptly relocated to the city of Medina and new beliefs were added to the Koran; at the same time, old beliefs were deleted or relegated to unimportance, and the religion was changed beyond recognition. In the end, Islam abandoned many of its Ebionite Jewish-Christian teachings. Women suffered the most: they became the focus of repression, scorn, and violence.
Today, although moderate Moslems are loath to admit these ideas, and many of them are terrified to voice criticism of their militant Islamic brothers, because of fear that violence will come to them and their families, the fact remains that these added teachings are not the original beliefs of Islam; they are amendments: They are the terrorist teachings of Islam.
In the near future, militant Moslems hope to unleash a Jihad: a Moslem holy war upon the non-Moslem world; not only upon Israel, the United States and Western Europe, but also throughout parts of Asia, including India and maybe even China, and Japan. Because the terrorist teachings of Islam sanction treaty breaking, deception, and war, as well as looting, murder, kidnapping, terrorism, and human slavery (including sexual slavery), so long as these crimes are directed against non-Moslems, there is no limit to the things these fanatics can do. But the scariest part: Militant Moslems will do everything… in the name of their primitive desert god.
Once victory is attained in this violent holy war, these fanatics believe Allah will bless them with harems of kidnapped sex slaves taken from destroyed cities and nations, as well as enormous fortunes of loot plundered from the non-Moslem world. They believe this because of the terrorist teachings that were added to the Koran. These terrorist teachings even say ransoms paid to Moslem terrorists, to redeem stolen property (like hijacked oil tankers and cargo ships) as well as kidnapped men, women, and children, are part of the Islamic loot these vicious criminals are entitled to receive.
These same terrorist teachings even allow Moslem men to force their kidnapped female sex slaves to marry them in Moslem wedding ceremonies, and bear children for them: whether the women want to or not. Terrorist Moslem teachings mandate only two requirements: The women must come from Christian or Jewish backgrounds, and secondly, if the unfortunate women resist, these same terrorist teachings say the Moslem husbands must beat them, and imprison them in their own homes.
If the Moslem fanatics die while committing these crimes against humanity, as an eternal reward for their cruel deeds Islamic extremists believe their fierce desert god will admit them to paradise and bless them with luxurious palaces filled with riches and populated by seventy-two virgin brides, who are exquisitely beautiful, yet modest enough to struggle to control their unbridled lust to have sexual intercourse with a dead Moslem terrorist.
With these stinging indictments against terrorist Islamic doctrines entered into the record, it is important to remember that the majority of Moslems are moderate, decent people who love God and practice acts of charity and kindness to their neighbors, both Moslem and non-Moslem. Such moderate Moslems recognize these violent teachings as obsolete and out of place in the Twenty-first Century. In the author’s opinion, in spite of enormous cultural and ideological differences that exist between the non-Moslem world and the followers of Islam, it is with this moderate Moslem majority that any long-term resolution to the Islamic terrorism issue will ultimately be negotiated.
However, given the massive population increases taking place in the Moslem world, at a time when poverty, chaos, criminality, and religious fanaticism are burgeoning, the numbers of Moslems worldwide who declare themselves militant is increasing; the influence their growing networks of terror cells exert on Islamic governments throughout the world has reached crisis levels. Because of the terrorist teachings of Islam, modern civilization faces a nightmarish future; the attacks on Mumbai, India, the World Trade Center in New York, and the subway bombings in Spain and London are simply previews of things to come. In this ferocious Jihad, nuclear and biological weapons are almost certain to come into play.
To paraphrase Winston Churchill: The road before us will be long and dangerous and terrifying; the United States and Europe and Asia must be resolute… and take courage. We must work together to neutralize militant Islamic movements… and if necessary… wage war against the governments that sustain them. At the same time, the non-Moslem world must also nurture moderate Islamic states and establish strong alliances with them. The very survival of our civilization depends on it.
Are you are interested in learning more about an array of Islamic topics including:
1. Who are The Seventy-two Virgins of Islam and how did they become part of militant Moslem dogma?
2. What role did the Ebionites and Khadija the Pure play, in founding the original (peaceful) religion of Islam?
3. What role does militant Islam play in modern human slavery?
Visit The Moslem Institute website: www.TheMoslemInstitute.com
Regards,
Dane Dahl
Author and Historian
Dane Dahl, Friday, January 2nd
don't be really affected by the propaganda Hamas is using to impress on the world! God ! Israel has no other choice! Hamas striked rockets first and killed children and purposed populated areas!
Long Live Israel
Key De La Clare, Thursday, January 1st
Mr. Gregorian,
Sir, you are talking slogans not facts.
The facts are that Hamas has 20,000 fully armed combatants in the Gaza strip, with some of the finest weapons around, with anti tank rockets, anti aircraft, heavy mines (the kind that can take out a tank) and huge stockpiles of explosives and armaments. Not to mentions their rockets and missiles capabilities into Israel proper. (Which hasn’t caused a lot of casualties thankfully, in comparison but that is because that part of our country is thinly populated.)
Along with the thousands of members of the other mass murder organizations, (Islamic Jihad, PFLP, and so on) that means that there is a full heavily armed infantry division fortified in the Gaza.
And the fact is that a division is a powerful force. One doesn’t confront such a powerful force by sending a single platoon or a regiment, or a handful of airplanes. That would have been disproportionate.
The fact is that throughout the history of modern warfare enemy divisions were heavily bombed, even when they were fortified in urban areas - with thousands of casualties in a single day.
The fact is that this is not a heavy bombardment, as the casualties figure indicate, slightly over a thousand killed and wounded in a week.
And the fact is that according to all conformed figures only a small portion of them is made up of civilians. And that is in spite of the fact that this is one of the most densely populated region on earth and that Hamas deliberately placed its headquarters and weapons storages among those civilians.
These are the facts Sir.
Now which of the items of the Geneva Convention do we violate. A convention that forbids a lot of things in a war, except for war been horrible.
Dvar Dea, Wednesday, December 31st
I do understand the need of a nation to protect its territory and safety. However, what the IDF is doing currently is nothing short of a mass punishment of 1.5 million population living in the largest open-air concentration camp in the world, thus generating more hatred and violence for years to come.
There ought to be a better way.
Doesn't any government respect the Geneva Conventions or UN resolutions any more?
Ara Gregorian, Wednesday, December 31st
Ah!
The usual anti Israel crowd is here in all its colors, including a ‘blame it all on Israel’ Gideon Levi type. How amusing.
Here they are with the usual skewed view of history.
Where Israel pulling out of Gaza never happened.
Where Israel allowing electricity and humanitarian aid to an enemy territory while under fire, didn’t happen.
Where the fact that Israel accepted every compromise offered and the Palestinians rejected it did not happen.
Where the fact the overwhelming majority of Palestinian killed are Hamas, has not registered, and they are waving the big number, shying away from its details, fearing the number of victims in it will shrink (not more then 60 so far) and with it their high and mighty pose.
Coming from a world where Hamas anti Jewish and anti democratic charter does not exist, their different colors are only skin deep.
Dvar Dea, Tuesday, December 30th
The Israeli government has a choice: ending the strangulation of Gaza, and declaring its willingness to negotiate a true end to the occupation (e.g dismantle Ariel and Kiryat Arba).
Some people would like us to forget that even after 2005, Gazan students who were admitted into US universities were unable to go to study (in other words, their future was destroyed) because someone (I dare not say who and from what country) did not allow them to get out of (free...) Gaza.
That's a subtle example, in comparison to certain acts of bombing carried out in Gaza during the past 3 years.
(Disclaimer: Qassams are terrorism too, and some of the bombs dropped in Gaza were dropped on legitimate targets)
Ofer, Israeli Jew, Tuesday, December 30th
If anyone occupy your home and violate all humanitarian laws than what is the other option for you for fight for freedom.I think Israel is provoking palestanians by violating human rights and snatch from them even right to live.thats why palestanians have no choice except to fight.... if you are yourself against racism do not delete my coment...
Faraz Khan, Tuesday, December 30th
Thank you for your invitation to your home, but I must respectfully decline, as the heat would not be good for my health.
Your comments will be considered individually, taking into account their undoubted high intellectual value and contribution to understanding.
Ami Isseroff, Monday, December 29th
In other words, I can write whatever I want as long as it is pro-Israe, right?
Go to hell.
David Baillie, Sunday, December 28th
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